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Negotiating an offer

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Anonym A fragte am 30. Sept. 2023

Hello

 

I am an engineering fresh grad who just landed two offers. One is from RB, the other is from a big chemical company which matches my major of chemical engineering and is one of the most reputable companies in my country.

 

Personally, I am leaning towards RB's offer but the problem is that RB is offering Mr an internship while the other offer is a full time job. I know that some consulting firms offer internships as part of their fresh grad recruitment but I have seen a couple of new fresh grad recruits who went in without an internship and got the full time job.

 

I am okay with the internship honestly but I would like to leverage the other offer that I have on RB to get a full time offer.

 

The  first question is, can I negotiate and leverage the other offer? Or will I seem unprofessional and would effect me negatively?

 

The second question, who to properly negotiate with the recruiting team and explain my situation?  And do you think they will understand my situation?  Honestly saying no to a full time job and excepting an internship that has no guarantees of a full time job seems risky to me so I want to explain to them my fears in order to convince them into giving me a full-time job.

 

The third and final question, do you think that I have the leverage here? I am a fresh grad who has no experience in consulting and I think this is a weak point that they will use against me. Whoever, as a candidate I passed 3 months of recruiting process and showed my skills to them so I believe that I am strong candidate for them.

 

 

Please do let me know what do you think of my situation, 

 

Thank you

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Raj
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Hello and congratulations on receiving two job offers! I understand that you are leaning towards RB's internship offer but would like to leverage the other offer to secure a full-time position. Let me address your questions:

Can you negotiate and leverage the other offer without seeming unprofessional? It is absolutely acceptable to negotiate and leverage another offer, and it does not make you appear unprofessional. Many candidates find themselves in similar situations, and companies understand that you are making a career decision based on various factors. It is important to approach the negotiation respectfully and professionally.

Who should you negotiate with and how should you explain your situation? You should reach out to the recruiting team at RB to initiate the negotiation. Clearly communicate your interest in the company and the value you believe you can bring. Explain that you have another offer for a full-time job and express your preference for a full-time position at RB. It is important to be honest about your concerns and fears regarding the internship and emphasize your commitment to a long-term career with the company.

Do you have leverage in this situation as a fresh grad with no consulting experience? While it is true that you may not have prior consulting experience, the fact that you have successfully passed a rigorous 3-month recruiting process demonstrates your potential and skills. This makes you a strong candidate for RB. Additionally, your engineering background can bring a unique perspective and analytical skills to the consulting role. Highlight these strengths and the value you can contribute to RB's projects.

Overall, it is important to approach the negotiation with confidence and professionalism. Clearly articulate your desires and concerns, emphasizing your commitment to RB. Remember, negotiations are a common part of the hiring process, and companies often appreciate candidates who are proactive in expressing their preferences and goals. Good luck with your negotiation, and I hope you secure the desired outcome. If you have any further questions or need assistance, feel free to ask.

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Hagen
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Hi there,

First of all, congratulations on the offers from RB and the chemical company!

I would be happy to share my thoughts on your situation:

  • First of all, yes, you can definitely try to negotiate and leverage the other offer, but it's essential how you communicate it. I would advise you to approach this not as a demand but as expressing a preference based on your long-term career goals and current circumstances. Making a well-reasoned argument shows maturity and professionalism, not unprofessionalism.
  • Moreover, when discussing with the recruiting team, it's best to be honest and clear about your reservations. Lay out your thoughts like you did here. Explaining that you're more inclined towards RB but are wary of the risks associated with choosing an internship over a full-time role, especially given another full-time offer at hand, is a valid concern. This doesn't reflect negatively but shows you're keen on RB while being rational about your career choices.
  • Lastly, while you might be a fresh grad without consulting experience, you've already proven your mettle by making it through the recruiting process, which in itself is no small feat. It might not be leverage in the strict sense, but it does position you as someone they saw potential in. I would advise you to communicate your enthusiasm for consulting and for RB, emphasizing that a full-time position would give you the security you need to fully commit.

If you would like a more detailed discussion on your specific situation, please don't hesitate to contact me directly.

Best,

Hagen

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Frederic
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Hello,

Congratulations on landing two job offers, and thank you for reaching out with your questions. It's a significant decision to make, and I'm here to provide some guidance on your situation:

Negotiating and Leveraging the Other Offer: It's absolutely acceptable to negotiate and leverage the other offer, and doing so professionally should not negatively impact you. Companies, including consulting firms like RB, often understand that candidates may have multiple offers and are open to discussions. It's a common part of the hiring process.

Properly Negotiating and Explaining Your Situation: When negotiating, it's important to communicate your situation effectively. Start by expressing your genuine interest in RB and the value you believe you can bring to the team. Mention your other offer but frame it positively, highlighting how the skills and experience you've gained from your chemical engineering background align with the role at RB. Discuss your preference for a full-time position but express your willingness to consider the internship as a stepping stone to a long-term career with the company.

To initiate this conversation, reach out to the HR or recruiting team at RB. You can typically find their contact information in the offer letter or through any previous correspondence. In your message, express your gratitude for the offer and your enthusiasm for joining the company. Mention that you have another offer and would like to discuss the possibility of a full-time position, given your strong interest in RB.

Leveraging Your Strengths: As a fresh graduate, you may feel that you lack experience in consulting, but it's important to remember that RB has gone through a rigorous recruiting process with you, which indicates they see potential in you. Highlight the skills, qualities, and achievements that make you a strong candidate, such as your problem-solving abilities, teamwork, and dedication to learning.

In summary, you do have leverage in this situation, and it's entirely reasonable to negotiate and express your preference for a full-time position. Be professional, honest, and enthusiastic in your communication with the recruiting team at RB. Consulting firms often value candidates who are proactive and assertive in pursuing opportunities.

Remember that negotiations are a common part of the hiring process, and when handled professionally, they can lead to mutually beneficial outcomes. Best of luck with your decision-making process, and I hope you find a satisfying career path that aligns with your goals.

If you have further questions or need more personalized advice, please feel free to reach out.

Warm regards, Frederic

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Lorenzo
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Hello!

Congratulations on receiving multiple job offers, that's a great achievement! Let's address your concerns and questions step by step:

1. Can you negotiate and leverage the other offer?

Yes, you can definitely negotiate and leverage the other offer. It's a common practice, and it's not unprofessional. Employers expect candidates to evaluate multiple offers. Just be respectful and professional in your communication.

2. How to properly negotiate and explain your situation?

When negotiating, be honest and transparent. You can explain your situation to the RB recruiting team by expressing your enthusiasm for their company and the skills you bring to the table. Emphasize that you have another offer in hand, but you are particularly interested in RB due to [mention specific reasons - company culture, growth opportunities, alignment with your career goals, etc.]. Mention that you are open to the internship but your preference is for a full-time position due to your career aspirations and financial stability. Also, inquire about the possibilities of transitioning from the internship to a full-time role based on performance.

3. Do you have leverage?

Yes, you do have leverage. You've successfully navigated the rigorous recruitment process, which means they see potential in you. Highlight your skills, any relevant coursework, projects, or internships you've done during your studies. Explain how your skills and experiences make you a valuable asset, despite being a fresh graduate.

Remember, confidence is key. Be confident in your abilities and what you bring to the table. Also, be open to negotiation. It might not always result in exactly what you want, but expressing your preferences respectfully can often lead to a compromise that works for both parties.

Lastly, it's essential to make a decision that aligns with your long-term career goals and personal circumstances. Consider not only the immediate benefits but also the potential for growth and learning in the long run.

Good luck with your negotiations! If you have any more questions or need further assistance, feel free to ask.

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Ian
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Oh boy.

First, honestly, you need to speak with someone about this. On a call. Talk to them. Explain the scenario. Discuss options. Dive into needs/wants. This is coaching 101.

Second, what a great “problem” to have!

Negotiation is tricky. Job selection to fit with an overall career is important. Please get a coach.

The  first question is, can I negotiate and leverage the other offer? Or will I seem unprofessional and would effect me negatively?

You can do this. However, there is risk in doing in the wrong way. Please pick your wording very carefully. HOW you frame this is very very important.

The second question, who to properly negotiate with the recruiting team and explain my situation?  And do you think they will understand my situation?  Honestly saying no to a full time job and excepting an internship that has no guarantees of a full time job seems risky to me so I want to explain to them my fears in order to convince them into giving me a full-time job.

You can actually say just this! Say you are “worried” about the risk. You would prefer to work for them, but it's risky. If they can take away that risk (i.e. fulltime offer) then you'd sign!.

The third and final question, do you think that I have the leverage here? I am a fresh grad who has no experience in consulting and I think this is a weak point that they will use against me. Whoever, as a candidate I passed 3 months of recruiting process and showed my skills to them so I believe that I am strong candidate for them.

Not quite leverage. But you have the right to ask. You're telling them what you need. They can either say yes or no. Then, you can make your decision!

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Alberto
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Hi there,

Congrats on your both offers! Regarding your questions:

Q: Can I negotiate and leverage the other offer? Or will I seem unprofessional and would affect me negatively? 

You have the right to negotiate with RB. It is important that you prepare well the negotiation in advance explaining why you prefer to join RB and what are your main strengths for the position. If you elaborate your points well and keep a professional tone, should be fine.

Q: Who to properly negotiate with the recruiting team and explain my situation? And do you think they will understand my situation? 

You probably had a reference person on the recruiting team. You should start from there. I do not advise to skip the person who lead your recruiting process.

Q: Do you think that I have the leverage here?

Absolutely! Worst case scenario, you still have the internship and the other full time offer to choose. Not so bad :)

Good luck!

Alberto

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Cristian
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Hi there!

Happy to provide a perspective. And congrats, by the way, that's quite a cool achievement and you're privileged to have options to choose from.

The  first question is, can I negotiate and leverage the other offer? Or will I seem unprofessional and would effect me negatively?

No, you won't seem unprofessional, but I doubt it will work. The competitive offer you have is not even from consulting, so they won't judge it as being on par. Plus, they will tell you that most internships convert into full-time offers anyway (which is true) and that this is the only thing that they can offer you because the already filled all the full-time roles for the year (which might be true). 

From my point of view, if you want to work in consulting, just take it. 

The second question, who to properly negotiate with the recruiting team and explain my situation?  And do you think they will understand my situation?  Honestly saying no to a full time job and excepting an internship that has no guarantees of a full time job seems risky to me so I want to explain to them my fears in order to convince them into giving me a full-time job.

I'd negotiate with them instead on the signing and relocation bonus in case the other offer provides more. 

Also, you can ask them about whether they could convert it into a full-time offer, but as I explained above, I doubt it's going to work. 

The third and final question, do you think that I have the leverage here? I am a fresh grad who has no experience in consulting and I think this is a weak point that they will use against me. Whoever, as a candidate I passed 3 months of recruiting process and showed my skills to them so I believe that I am strong candidate for them.

Yes, exactly, you don't have that much leverage. To add on top that they are hiring actually fewer people in the industry this year, you're overall fortunate. 

Don't overthink this more than necessary. Once again, if you want to be in consulting, the internship is the avenue for you to do it.

Best,
Cristian

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Benjamin
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Hi,

Sharing my thoughts on your situation

  • I do think it is possible to try and negotiate for a full time offer and it will not affect you negatively as long as you are professional and polite about it
  • I do think your concerns are very valid and legitimate, whether or not the firm will understand your situation I think partly depends on the way you communicate it. Whether or not they choose to act on it - that's something you cannot control
  • Personally, I think you don't have as much leverage in this situation. While you have showed them your skills, you don't know whether or not there are other candidates who were -almost- as good as you but who are willing to take the internship. In many cases, junior level roles are much easier to fill than senior level roles. 

No harm trying politely and professionally - the worst that could happen is that they say no. Then it's a different question on weighing the options.

All the best!

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Hi there,

Congratulations on your offers! In terms of your questions:

1) Can I negotiate and leverage the other offer? Or will I seem unprofessional and would effect me negatively?

I assume that you mean leverage your full-time offer and negotiate with RB so that they alter the offer from an internship to a full-time position. You can definitely politely ask; worst case, they will say that’s not an option. If they do not offer internships for candidates with the same background you have, most likely they won’t be able to accommodate the request.

2) Who to properly negotiate with the recruiting team and explain my situation?  And do you think they will understand my situation?

I would recommend contacting HR, specifically the person that you had the most contact with and/or sent you the official internship offer. 

3) Do you think that I have the leverage here? 

The best way to negotiate is to have an “opportunity cost” due to another offer. Technically, your other offer is not a full-time consulting position, so you don’t have a lot of leverage. You can still bring that point and see what they say. 

If you want to learn more about negotiation, I would recommend “Never split the difference” by Chris Voss, which includes some great tips.

Good luck!

Francesco

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