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Stuck in the math part

case math mckinsey 1st round interview
New answer on May 29, 2022
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Anonymous A asked on May 28, 2022

Hi! I have been studying for case interviews for about a year now. During the last cycle, I studied intensively and developed strengths in structuring and business sense. The biggest weakness I had during interviews was the quantitative part. 

Specifically, I am struggling to 1) quickly develop a structure once given data and 2) communicate/"talk through" my math. It is to the point where I feel like I freeze up during the math parts and cannot think through the math section. I even took coaching but it did not help me improve. I am feeling hopeless about my abilities in the quant section. Does anyone have any advice or resources I can use to improve this? 

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Francesco
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replied on May 29, 2022
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Hi there,

Sorry to hear about the struggle but no worries, with the right practice you can definitely improve. In terms of your questions:

1) Quickly develop a structure once given data 

I would try to clarify first the exact reason of the problem. It could be due to a variety of things:

  1. You misunderstand the objective and answer the wrong question
  2. You don’t ask the right clarifying questions
  3. You freeze and are unable to ask for help to the interviewer when needed
  4. You have not done enough math drills, thus you have seen a limited amount of math problems and cannot quickly identify the optimal structure
  5. You get confused when you get a large amount of information

Once identified the exact problem, you can drill down on a solution for it. If you want please feel free to message me and can check if I can direct you to the right process according to the issue.

2) Communicate/"talk through" my math. It is to the point where I feel like I freeze up during the math parts and cannot think through the math section.

This could:

  1. Be related to the previous point (you don’t feel confident about the structure) or
  2. Be due to the fact you need more practice with interviewers that put you under pressure

In case you need more help please feel free to PM me.

Best,

Francesco

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Ian
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replied on May 29, 2022
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Hi there,

Quick question: Did you go with a cheap coach or a tried-and-tested coach? Like most things in life, it's not just about doing x, it's about who/what you pick.

Math Setup

  1. Have a seperate "math" scrap sheet of paper
  2. Grab a new sheet of paper every time you're entering a new phase of the case...number and title it
  3. Use tables to organize numbers
  4. Write out the equation before doing the math
  5. Never forget to write down units
  6. Circle key numbers AND write down the "so what"

Regarding Improving Fast Math Skills

  • Math sheets (print these and do them on paper): Math-Drills
  • Leverage the free preplounge resource:https://www.preplounge.com/en/mental-math.php
  • Rocketblocks is great for math in the context of a case

Regarding Improving Anxiety

1) Practice, practice, practice - just like playing an instrument, practice until it becomes second nature...then when you perform in front of an audience, muscle memory takes over from stage fright!

2) Practice with people who make you nervous - Don't keep casing yourself or casing with other PrepLoungers! You need to feel as nervous when practicing as you will in the real thing. To do so, you can do any (or all) of the following:

  • Ask for a buddy/case partner from target firms to which you're applying
  • Ask anyone you have a relationship with at your target firms to give you a practice case
  • Ask your school's career office to give you a case
  • Ask a coach to give you a case (and ask them to be tough/strict/non-friendly)
  • Still ask PrepLoungers to case you, but ask them to jump straight into it without conversation beforehand (i.e. simulate the real thing)
  • Change your enviroment - instead of casing at home, go to a library or office room. Changing the scenery may trigger you to be less relaxed

3) Practice with the unknown - ask people to give you "weird" cases. Ask people to throw everything they have at you (curveballs, confusing statements, etc.)...you'll get comfortable with tripping up (and recovering)

4) Practice fast math

Mental Math Q&A: https://www.preplounge.com/en/consulting-forum/is-quick-mental-math-a-skill-that-can-be-learned-5210

https://www.preplounge.com/en/consulting-forum/mental-math-help-7962

Interview Anxiety: https://www.preplounge.com/en/consulting-forum/tips-on-interview-anxiety-7095

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Mario
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replied on May 28, 2022
Ex-Mckinsey (analyst->associate->manager) and now in tech (Bytedance) + Part time interview coach and mentor

Hey there, 

The key is to try to apply a couple of principles to (1) avoid tough math to start with and (2) know how to get to proxies as needed

A couple of tips:

 

A- Round your numbers

Whenever you can, ask whether the interviewer is okay with rounded answers. You can frame it as ‘should I get the exact figure or can I take proxies". You’ll be surprised to see that many (not all) will be okay with proxies as they are really testing your structure. In some cases, they'll still ask for the exact figure though.

 

B- Reordering

The order in which you solve an equation matters a lot. Starting with the wrong pair might complicate things a lot (e.g. get you into decimals)

 

C-  Replacing zeros with symbols

Use K, M, B as opposed to tens of zeros. That leaves you with a max of 3 digits to worry about. e.g., 10,000x25,000 is 10kx25k which is 10x25M which is 250M

 

D- Decompose 

It's sometimes helpful to decompose some complex figures into easier ones and tackle then in 2 shots vs 1 only e.g., decomposing into sums or fractions

 

Can give you more tips as needed !

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Cristian
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replied on May 29, 2022
#1 rated MBB & McKinsey Coach

Hi there, 

All good advice mentioned below. Worth a shot!

Additionally, I suggest two things:

1. Do root-cause analysis on why you're getting mentally blocked. It sounds like the issue is not so much your mental / cognitive ability to run / figure out the numbers, but rather managing your emotions to remain calm and composed. You need to figure out why that is the case, what are the triggers and how to best control them as early as possible in the interview process. 

2. Reach out so I can share a free guide on how to approach maths questions. It's designed to break down the process in a few steps so as to make it easier for you and less likely to create mistakes. I am confident this will help, like it helped all my candidates.

Best,
Cristian

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