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Smaller Offices vs NYC office for MBB/Deloitte

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New answer on Mar 01, 2023
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Anonymous A asked on Feb 28, 2023

I am an undergrad recruiting for Full-time opportunities in MBB/Deloitte. I can't give too much info on my background, but I go to a lower-tier Ivy, have a 3.7 borderline gpa in Econ, will be interning at MS/GS/JPM this summer, and have solid EC leaderships (but nothing too crazy as well tbh). So I know im not like an all-star candidate, but if I network enough for a specific office and prep well for casing I can get through screening and ultimately maybe even pass the interviews.

I am trying to optimize which office I want to recruit for MBB/Deloitte. I know smaller offices can be less competitive, but then there are also less spots available so its hard still (New Jersey, Seattle, etc). Looking at other cities like Boston, Philly, etc may also be difficult as they are targets for Upenn, Harvard, MIT, etc. I go to a lower Ivy (think Dartmouth/Cornell) that has a lot of alums in the NYC office, but I also know it would be extremely competitive to recruit for NYC (with Harvard 4.0 Gpa geniuses applying, not to mention the best of the best from my own school) and given the slowdown in hiring, maybe recruiting for NYC office is a bit of a risky option?

Basically trying to figure out whether I should apply for the big NYC office or find a smaller office (based in a city that I like of course) like NJ, Seattle, Philly, Boston, etc. Want to optimize my chances given the recession, but there doesn't seem to be a clear cut answer here.

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Francesco
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replied on Mar 01, 2023
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Hi there,

Q: Trying to figure out whether I should apply for the big NYC office or find a smaller office (based in a city that I like of course) 

I would consider the following:

  1. If you have a strong preference for an office, unless you have insider information that the office is not recruiting candidates with your background (which is probably something just someone referring you might provide), I would go for that. The reason is that there are several factors that could impact the probability for that office, but you are in a situation of asymmetric information, thus you cannot correctly weigh them. So I would base the decision on what you know (that is, the fact you like that office the most).
  2. If you are neutral between multiple offices, I would prioritize the one where you can find more easily a referral.
  3. If you cannot find a referral in any and are still neutral, I would check on LinkedIn where your school has a better track record in terms of hiring.

You can find more on referrals below:

▶ How to Get an MBB Invitation

▶ The Exact Steps to Get a Referral

Good luck!

Francesco

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Hagen
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replied on Mar 01, 2023
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Hi there,

I think this is an interesting question that may be relevant for many people. I would be happy to share my thoughts on it:

  • First of all, based on the information provided, it seems like you still have a good chance of getting invited to the interviews. Therefore, I would highly advise you not to worry too much about those rather insignificant factors and instead think about which city you would like to spend your weekends in. If you end up succeeding in the interviews but are located in a city where you do not feel at home and have no friends, you might still quit shortly after.
  • Moreover, no one really knows the answer, besides the fact that there are compelling reasons for and against both options, as you have also outlined. Therefore, once again, consider which city you would like to spend your weekends in, and choose that/those office(s) as your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd choice.

If you would like a more detailed discussion on how to address your specific situation, please don't hesitate to contact me directly.

Best,

Hagen

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Ian
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replied on Feb 28, 2023
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Hi there,

I know you want control over this situation. And I can tell you're smart. I also love your thinking!

However, you cannot “game” this system. You can easily pick the wrong office but for the right reasons…

For example, NYC is historically one of the hardest. However, NYC has had an exodus. So, is there less applicant supply? Or, are people rushing back now? Or, are there fewer projects now because companies have left NYC.

We don't know!

Apply where your application makes sense. Apply where you have networking moment. Diversify your office selection when in doubt.

Remember, for most applications you can apply to multiple officews! Remember, networking can reveal/show where you should apply (and it changes by company!)

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Dennis
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replied on Feb 28, 2023
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Hi there,

if you were to war-game this process, then you must also assume that others in your situation will try a similar approach. Given the overall hiring slowdown, even some “Harvard 4.0 GPA geniuses” might choose smaller offices to increase their chances given very limited spots and tight competition everywhere at those firms.

While I can understand where you are coming from, I don't think your strategy will move the needle because there are too many variables not under your control. 

Therefore, you should go with the office in the city you'd actually want to live in. You might also want to finetune your decision based on cost of living. Why pick a city where you have to give a significant portion of your take home pay to a landlord every month? Just food for thought.

Good luck

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Pedro
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replied on Mar 01, 2023
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Let me add my 2 cents here. Consulting firms will also evaluate your reasons to joining a specific office. If they doubt that you have any relevant ties to the region and are unlikely to stay in the long run, they will set the bar higher… meaning that you cannot game the system as much as you would want to.

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