I want to apply for western europe/nordics offices after MBA but I don't have any connection to those regions.

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Anonymous A asked on Aug 26, 2020

I want to apply for western europe/nordics offices (e.g. Brussels, Netherlands, Denmark, Stockholm, etc.) after MBA but I don't have any connection to those regions (I didn't study or live there before. I did reach out to alum but shy to ask a referal). What should I do?

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Anonymous replied on Aug 26, 2020

Dear A,

For sure, referrals might help you in this situation. But you have to decide one principal question for you - whether you want to get a job, or you want to keep feeling shy?

If you need any help with networking, feel free to reach out.

Best,
André

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Francesco
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Hi there,

To get an invitation in your situation the best thing is to find a connection and follow the right steps to get a referral.

To find a referral, you should follow three steps:

  1. Identify the people that can help you
  2. Write them a customized email
  3. Have a call and indirectly ask for a referral

As general tips:

  • Don’t use LinkedIn for your communication – emails work better. You should target 30% conversion for your messages; if you are not achieving that, there is space for improvement.
  • When sending emails, your goal should be to organize a call, not to ask questions – you can then use the call for the questions.
  • You need to close the call with an indirect request for a referral – don’t leave that to chances. There are specific ways to phrase it.

Before the call, you should have your CV and Cover ready – in this way you can send them right away it if the person wants to refer you.

If you are interested to know the exact email to write, questions to ask and indirect closing to land the referral, please feel free to PM me.

I provide a 30 min session at 50% discount to understand the exact steps to get MBB referrals, directly from home – no events participation required.

This includes all the scripts needed for the email to send and the call to have with the consultant.

Following the same process, I managed to get 6 invitations out of 6 applications – including all MBB. I regularly see my mentees getting referrals for MBB with that.

Best,

Francesco

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Anonymous B replied on Aug 26, 2020

If you are at a target school then you have a shot but you will need exceptional academics and professional achievements. A referral would help. Appreciate asking is awkward but in reality asking directly never works. Focus on cultivating a friendship with the alum and they may proactively offer you one

If not then I would focus on offices you do have a connection in

Best

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Antonello
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replied on Aug 31, 2020
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Hi, I would try to connect with local consultants through LinkedIn, starting - if any - from the ex-alumni of your School.

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Antonello

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Clara
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replied on Dec 31, 2020
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Hello!

I would recommend you to leverage the MBA network (both the ex-consultants and the future-consultants) to get a referral for the desired region.

Best,

Clara

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Ian
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replied on Aug 27, 2020
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Hi there,

I highly recommend you do 3 things:

1) Apply to offices where you have relevant work/life experience (internships, jobs, studies, living, language, etc.). At least do this as a 2nd choice / backup

2) Ask for a referral where it makes sense - In general, you shouldn't directly ask for a referral (especially not from everyone). However, if you felt you made a particularly strong connection, it doesn't hurt to ask a few people where you think the odds are higher. Wording here is important...feel free to shoot me a message and we can wordsmith this a bit.

3) Network more and network better

a) Reach out to people in your network

b) Reach out to people once removed from your network

c) Reach out to people with a similar backgorund to you (i.e. same alma mater, same hometown, same career switch, etc.)

d) Tailor a message to them specifically both showing interest in them and their journey and demonstrating that you have done your research and could be a valuable hire

e) Play "tag" across calls you get so that you can work your way towards the company/office/role you want

f) Leave a strong impression - i.e. don't ask "basic questions". Rather, demonstrate your ability/intelligence by asking smart questions, carrying a natural conversation, showing genuine interest, etc.

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