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Mckinsey Canada VS Qatar (Middle East)

Hey Guys,

I got offer from McKinsey Canada and Qatar as Business Analyst. Wonder which one to choose. The net pay is almost equal in both offices as Canada recently increased salaries and now it's the same as in US. Don't know regarding other perks such as MBA sponsorship, lunch/taxi reimbursement and etc (Qatar VS Canada). 

My needs are:
-first of all to join crypto start up after 2-3 years in the firm
-save money for investing each month
-of course, have interesting projects mainly in digital/tech/finance (for example NOT cost-cutting projects, 1% optimization of company revenue )

Also one more question, is it easy (possible) to grab projects from US/any other region working in Canada (Toronto)?

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Florian
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on May 26, 2022
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Hey there,

Congrats!

Good points made already here. A couple of thoughts:

  • While salary might be the same, ME is usually tax free so you end up with much more at the end of the day
  • Living in Canada is more interesting than living in Doha. Hope to step on no one's toes here but Doha has not a lot to offer compared to other cities in the region and a brutal summer (okay, Toronto has a brutal winter).
  • Toronto would definitely enable you to work on more finance related topics.
  • At the end of the day it also depends on where you wan to live, where your family and friends are.
  • If your exit goal is to join a crypto startup, I'd actually not start in an MBB but go directly that route. 2-3 years in crypto are 10 years in a different industry and the difference between joining now vs in 2-3 years is huge in terms of opportunity cost (source: I run my own company in this space and have worked for a crypto scale up after leaving McK).

All the best,

Florian

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on May 27, 2022

Hey there - congrats on the offer. 

Outside of what you have mentioned do look at a few things.
1. Speak to people about the culture of the different offices 
2. They are VERY different geographies and your lifestyle would be very different. Do understand the differences and what they mean to you as it might not look important at the outset but it can get to you
3. The types of clients that you will have. Qatar would probably be a lot of saudi based public sector work 

 

To address your needs 
1. Crypto - For this you probably want to do projects in financial services and it would be good to learn which office has a higher concentration of Fin Serv projects. I would say that crypto start ups will start springing up a lot in MEA in 2-3 years so you will have a good opportunity to switch. 

2. Money - From friends working in Mck Canada/ US/ MEA - The take home savings in MEA is more due to the low taxes and additional allowances given 

3. Projects - The list that you have mentioned are probably more in Canada as you will also be staffed on a lot of US based projects. However it also does depend on where in Canada, Calgary does a lot of oil and gas work. Qatar will be doing a lot of public sector work. So speak with people in both your offer offices to understand the project mix. 

 

Congrats again on your offers! Good luck with the decision 

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Udayan
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on May 28, 2022
Top rated Case & PEI coach/Multiple real offers/McKinsey EM in New York /12 years recruiting experience

You cannot go wrong with either office. However, I think Canada might give you the edge mainly because it is closer to the US where a lot is happening in the crypto space, unlike the middle east. 

Answers to your other questions : 

  • Ask your local HR about MBA sponsorship, there will be a difference in country and it is best to know that before you commit
  • I really would not worry about taxi or food reimbursement, they always provide enough so you are not worried about that and can focus on work instead
  • Projects vary a lot, each location can have interesting or non interesting ones depending on what you like. However industries will depend a lot on location. ME is Oil and Gas heavy or a lot of work with investment funds, Canada can be more diverse depending on where in Canada you are
  • Yes it is definitely possible to work on US projects when in the Canada offices of McKinsey - it happens a lot.

Best,

Udayan

Ian
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on May 27, 2022
Top US BCG / MBB Coach - 5,000 sessions |Tech, Platinion, Big 4 | 9/9 personal interviews passed | 95% candidate success

Hi there,

Congrats on the offer!

You need to decide the 2-3 most important things to you and go from there.

A few thoughts:

  1. Qatar has a tax rate of just 10%, and is much cheaper than Canada (so, more savings).
  2. The crypto space barely exists in Qatar. Canada is better for this, especially with close proximity to the US
  3. Tech projects - Canada/US, but talk to each office to better understand their specific projects
  4. Culture - this is important…where do you actually want to be

Good luck with the decision!

on May 26, 2022
Ex-McKinsey AP | Interviewed 50+ candidates, gave 10+ offers | Own MBB-inspired cases | Oxford and Cambridge graduate

Hi there, congratulations on securing not one but two offers! This is by the way the first time I hear of this as an ex-McKinsey AP, kudos to you! 

Some considerations:

  • I cannot comment on the perks in either office but you should bear in mind the income tax: none in Qatar vs. considerable one in Canada, plus the cost of living is likely higher in Canada (use numbeo.com to cross-check this)
  • The Canadian office is collaborating a lot with the US office: in my time in the NY and SF offices, I had dozens of colleagues commuting from Canada to work on US projects. Similarly, the Gulf office employees spend a lot of time in Saudi as the major economy in the region - you should consider if this is attractive to you
  • Regarding choice of projects – you can influence this if you join the Mckinsey Digital practice, but otherwise in the first year or two will depend a lot on the project pipeline for the office. With the economy being what it is, cost-cutting projects are not unlikely in either location… That said, it doesn't hurt to be explicit to your Staffing colleagues that you want to do digital stuff
  • Finally, regarding crypto – there is a McKinsey Crypto practice that is North America-centric, whose leader is in Boston and a few more key people are in SF, NY etc. You are much more likely to interact with that bunch out of Canada than out of Qatar

Good luck to you! Either way, this will be great :)

Pedro
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on May 27, 2022
Bain | EY-Parthenon | Former Principal | 1.5h session | 30% discount 1st session

If you want to learn about digital… Canada.

Living expenses… I bet they are higher in Qatar. So Canada again.

It is possible to be staffed for US projects, and that will be easier from Canada than from Qatar.

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