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MBA --> MBB: not worth it in these circumstances?

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New answer on Dec 31, 2022
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Charlie asked on Dec 26, 2022

TLDR: Early 30s, on track for Sr Mgr / Director roles within 8 years.   MBA/MBB would not dramatically accelerate that timeline, so drawing conclusion that it’s no longer worth it at this point in my career.  Are there any reasons to still consider it (i.e. benefits that continuing in industry would not provide;  Possible benefits in longer 10-20 year time horizon that would still make it worthwhile)?

Happy Holidays Everyone:

I’m coming to the conclusion that a top-tier FT MBA and MBB may no longer make logical sense for me. Posting this as a sanity check in case I am missing blind spots or alternate perspectives.  Feedback would be much appreciated!

MBA/MBB is a long-standing goal that I’ve postponed for personal/professional reasons.  Admitted to M7 in early 2020 – declined due to COVID and am glad I made that choice.  Currently early 30s, engineering background, and working in a lead BD/strategy role at a well-known F500 (defense/space industry).  TC $160k.  Expect continued growth towards $200-$250k TC and senior management roles over next 5 years. Director level opportunities would follow.

Elite MBAs / MBB are uncommon in my industry but individuals with these credentials consistently do well. My goal was always to slave away at MBB for 2-4 years and then exit to a director level role.  But at this point, I would be close to that level of seniority if I had just kept working!   The only reasons I could see it still making sense are:

  • Diverse experiences of MBA and numerous consulting engagements expands network and leadership/strategic-thinking muscles in ways that current job won’t. Possible payoff down the road.  Not sure if I’m overestimating the importance of this or not??
  • MBA/MBB may accelerate and/or widen breadth of opportunities available 
  • Two year break from the politics and sharp elbows sounds good to me

That aside, plenty of downsides I’m also wary of:

  • Current role is 35-45 hours/week with minimal travel.  Relocating out of state 2 years followed by 2-4 years of 70 hour weeks is not a net improvement
  • Expect to pay full freight tuition.  If less-than-optimal outcome in consulting recruiting / industry exit, I could end up $300-$400k behind my current wealth trajectory.
  • For my industry, the most desirable/successful exits are from MBB.  M7 does not guarantee MBB placement.  T2 exits have not been to leading firms or to roles I’d want.   
  • OK with starting out as a generalist but no guarantees on volume of case coverage in my industry, which is ultimately where I want to return
  • Timing. BD/strategy director roles do not open up frequently at leading defense/space firms and internal candidates are often selected.  No guarantee the stars will align when I look to return to industry

All that considered, seems like going for MBA full time followed by MBB has limited upside and lots of risks compared to my current career trajectory.  My current thinking is a more sensible approach would be to do a top PT program which would still provide a *limited* on-ramp for recruiting IF I still want/need that option in 2 years.

 

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Francesco
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replied on Dec 27, 2022
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Hi Charlie,

Congratulations on your very good career path so far. In terms of your question:

Q: MBA/MBB would not dramatically accelerate that timeline, so drawing conclusion that it’s no longer worth it at this point in my career.  Are there any reasons to still consider it (i.e. benefits that continuing in industry would not provide).

Given what you shared the main benefit of an MBA/MBB seems to be the opportunity to

  1. Change industry (which doesn't seem interesting to you)
  2. Build a stronger network

An MBA could also be an opportunity to “have a break”, however your current job doesn’t seem particularly requiring.

If:

  1. You want to stick to your current industry
  2. You are well-aligned for a promotion already and
  3. MBA/MBB doesn’t provide a faster track

I don’t see reasons to go for that. 

An intermediary option would be to do an MBA/ EMBA (ideally sponsored by your company) with the opportunity to meet a promotion right after.

Best,

Francesco

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Hagen
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replied on Dec 27, 2022
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Hi Charlie,

This is indeed an interesting question which is probably relevant for a lot of users, thus I am happy to provide my perspective on it:

  • It sounds like you have done a thorough analysis of the pros and cons of pursuing an MBA program and MBB afterwards at this stage in your career. You have identified some potential benefits, such as the opportunity to expand your network and leadership skills, and the potential for a wider range of career opportunities. However, you have also identified several downsides, such as the time and financial commitment, the potential for a less-than-optimal outcome in the recruiting processes, and the possibility of falling behind your current wealth trajectory.
  • Given your goals and career trajectory, it may make more sense to continue on your current path and consider a part-time MBA program in the future if you feel that it would still be beneficial to your career. A part-time program would allow you to continue working while gaining additional skills and knowledge, and may be a less risky option than a full-time program.
  • Ultimately, the decision will depend on your individual goals and priorities. It may be helpful to speak with individuals who have pursued MBA programs and MBB afterwards in your industry and get their perspective on whether they believe it was a worthwhile investment for their career. You may also want to consider seeking the advice of a coach who can provide additional guidance and help you weigh the pros and cons of each option.

In case you want a more detailed discussion on what to do in your specific situation, please feel free to contact me directly.

Best,

Hagen

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Ian
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replied on Dec 27, 2022
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Hi there,

I agree with Giacomo.

I also think you shouldn't rely on a Q&A to determine the entire rest of your career…

We don't know you and we haven't worked with you, so none of us are well positioned to tell you what to do.

I would keep in mind the following:

  1. Just like you pay someone to do your taxes  or manage your wealth (because it's a big deal) consider paying a career coach to help you with the decision…this isn't something to go “free” on
  2. MBB improves your overall security/safety. Your current company might bust. Defense spending might collapse (though it does seem the opposite is about to happen). 
  3. MBB provides more flexibility. You might want something different in 5 years.

Ultimately, you don't know what will happen 8 years from now. MBA + MBB provides flexibility, security etc.

I'm not saying it's what you should do, I'm just saying think through your choices without so many hard and fast assumptions that are subject to change

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Anonymous replied on Dec 27, 2022

If your goal is to stay in defence/space then I don't think you should leave to then come back. You will gain relevant operational experience by staying. Given your comment about internal politics, you will also need to keep building your internal relationships as you go up the ladder. Again, MBA + MBB won't help you accelerate this.

You mentioned broadening your opportunities. From my reading of your para, is this something you really want, given it seems you want to stick to the defence/space sector?

PT / EMBA is probably your best shot to expand your network, keep developing leadership skills, signal internally you are aiming to be a future leader, etc…

The cost benefit of whether forking out for that EMBA increases your lifetime earnings is hard to say. 

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Hello,

Thanks for sharing the context, here are my thoughts:

1) I think you should continue with your current role on track to attain the Director position

2) Consider applying for an Executive MBA a couple of years down the line if you feel yourself craving a change (either for wanting to enter consulting, or wanting to take a break from your industry)

3) As an Executive MBA, you will potentially be recruiting for an Project Lead/ Engagement Manager position at an MBB (as opposed to a Consultant from an MBA) and thus you will be expected to have an industrial preference - which you clearly do.

Hope this helps! All the best!

Rushabh

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