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How exhaustive should my structure be? (Following MBB 1st round feedback)

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New answer on Jun 12, 2022
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Anonymous A asked on Jun 10, 2022

The feedback I got after my MBB first round (which I passed) was that my structure had irrelevant buckets, for example:

The case was about a bank that wants to increase its profitability in the loans segment and my 1st layer structure was:

  1. The bank itself: the financials (rev and costs etc…) my hypothesis was that we could increase rev/decrease cost to create extra profits.
  2. The loans market: (size, growth, and share of each player) my hypothesis was that we don’t have a large market share and that we would be able to capture more of it to create extra profits.
  3. Other banks: (what is their value offering?) my hypothesis was that they might offer some special loan/terms that we do not and we might consider offering it as well to create extra profits.
  4. Customers: (what are their needs?) my hypothesis was that there might be unfulfilled demand among customers and we can customize new products to unlock extra profits.

The feedback I received was that my structure should focus on the most important things (80-20 rule), in this case the financials of the bank and the loans market, and that the competitors/customers buckets weren’t as relevant and should not have been there.

It sounds to me like looking into comps/customers is relevant as there is potential to increase profits by looking into the hypothesis mentioned regarding each one. Moreover, not including them in my structure feels to me like not being MECE in terms of exhaustiveness.

What do you think about it?

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Moritz
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replied on Jun 10, 2022
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Hi there,

I can see why you got this feedback. Those are generic buckets that are somehow peripheral to the ask but don't get to the point. That being said:

  • Was the point to produce a target figure i.e. incremental absolute profit in US$ from this venture (would expect from candidate-led case)?
  • Or where you asked about the controlling factors (would be very typical for interviewer-led McKinsey style)?

For example, your bucket #1 is literally the premise of the ask and entirely redundant. As for the rest, they're relevant points but poorly organized.

When asked for profit, I would in 9/10 cases build a revenue/cost structure at the first level and then introduce all these controlling factors in the second level:

  • For revenue, you can consider customer base, overall market, competition, etc. with regards to # & $
  • For cost, you can also make some assumptions and it's actually entirely absent of your current structure

Clues for the appropriate structure are often in the prompt and candidates ignore them and overcomplicated things. When asked about profit, break down profit. When asked about short and long term solutions for x, make a short and long term bucket etc. You get the point!

Hope this helps. Best of luck!

 

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Anonymous A on Jun 11, 2022

Thank you for the detailed answer! One question bugs me though, isn't doing a structure composed solely of revenues and cost seem too lean from an interviewer's standpoint? Wouldn't it look like I'm not insightful enough?

Moritz on Jun 11, 2022

Those are just the buckets! The real magic happens at the endpoints of your structure. That’s where you can show incredible insight with regards to what drives rev and cost. These drivers can relate to the company, competitors, macroeconomics, product itself, etc. All the elements you have in your structure in your original question but better sorted.

Ian on Jun 12, 2022

Moritz is exactly right. Your takeaway here shouldn't be "oh, so I should do revenues/costs here then?" Both approaches are wrong! You're fundamentally thinking about frameworking the wrong way...you need an objective-driven approach. I'd highly recommend coaching to get there!

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Hello!

I totally get where the feedback is coming from, since, if you just listen to the buckets (what you wrote in bold in your post), it is a generic casebook approach. 

However, reading more carefully and focusing on your detailed explanations (well done!), you can see that you have a solid logic behind all of them, that is not at all generic. 

Hence, I would focus very much on those explanations focused on the relevance of what you are mentioning. 

Hope it helps!

Cheers, 

Clara

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Ian
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Hi there,

I'll say to you what I say to most of my candidates when they start out with me: “Those are just words”

You've just listed out a bunch of words/ideas that you hope will stick.

That's not frameworking!

You need a hollistic, objective-driven approach. This is nearly impossible to learn through reading/writing and most resources out there only teach you the what (i.e. memorize). Shoot me a message if you'd like a fundamental mindset shift in how to approach frameworking (the why and the how)

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Hi there, 

what happens to you is issue of many of my coachees when we start the journey which is the prioritization. MBB solves very complex problems in a few months time with 100% dedication of the team. Here you have to solve this type of the case in 30 minutes! this means you need to focus only on those points that solve your case. You have listed many relevant points such as point number 1, but considering the time you have you should focus only on the loans, just quick thinking:

1. Segmentation of the loans and its profitability → for example focus on those with the highest profit but low share or 

2. how to decline cost of the loans that has the highest share, etc. 

You need to master what is the MOST relevant points to focus in THIS particular case. Your issue is easily fixable, you probably just need to mock more case and good coach can help with that. 

Happy to support if interested. 

Good luck,

Lucie

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Anonymous A on Jun 11, 2022

Thank you for that insightful comment. I 100% agree but my thought process when structuring my approach is that mentioning buckets of lower priority together with the most important ones signals to the interviewer of my breadth of thinking, and ensures that if I don't get results from the high priority buckets I'll have more areas to investigate. What do you think about that? Also, what would be the best approach in your mind: 1) mentioning all buckets in the example and stating that the first two are the most important ones to look into and that the other two are more of a backup. 2) mentioning only the first two buckets (which are the most important ones) and neglecting the buckets of lesser importance all together. Thanks!

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