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AB asked on Nov 30, 2021

Hi,

After my interview with BCG I had the interviewer call to extend an offer and said HR will get in contact with me. I am assuming this means I have an offer from BCG?

After having chatted with BCG employees, I am starting to doubt why I should join. A background of me, I have an engineering background and have been working in the pharmaceutical sector with 3 yrs of work experience. I applied to BCG on a whim around 3 months back as I though working at a management consulting company would be good to improve my strategizing accumes as a substitute for MBA. But I have been told alot of early work years are based on PowerPoint skills and etc. Given I know the industry I want to be in would you recommend doing a MBA and skipping the MBB route altogether. 

Sorry for the long post I am just a bit confused at the moment.

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Ian
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replied on Nov 30, 2021
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Hi there,

Congrats on the offer!

You are absolutely right to question the job (everyone should question every job)! Good for you on making sure this decision is right for you.

I have the following thoughts+suggestions:

  1. Speak (on the phone/in person) with more people. Ask them the hard questions about the day-to-day, whether it's worth it, etc.
  2. Ask yourself what you really want to do in the next few years and where you want to be after those years. What do you want to do + what are you willing to put up with
  3. Remember that this job is hard. Very hard. If you are not commited and don't know why you're there, you likely won't survive
  4. Remember that this job is a lot of b.s. Yes, there is a ton of powerpoint, making things look pretty, and politics
  5. Remember that this job teaches you a ton AND sets you up for future success. You will become incredibly good at thinking quickly, breaking down problems, learning how to approach any problem and learn anything rapidly, communicate effectively, etc.

I've written a few articles on the good + bad of consulting so feel free to reach out for them

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Pedro
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You are confusing tools you use with the skills you gain. This is like saying you don't want to be a doctor because it requires a lot of “Health Information Systems” knowledge, or believe that a sales job is about driving a car around… 

So let's be clear, it's not about powerpoint skills. It's about communication and structured thinking. It's not about excel formulas. It's about generating insight from data (and being data driven). It's not about research, it's about knowing how to look for the right information and know how to interpret it.

Even as a Principal I spend a lot of time on powerpoint. +90% of the time I am not correcting formating issues, but instead working on problem solving, logic, communication and evidence.

You will learn how to think and how to communicate. For that, you will use PPT as a medium, but do never ever confuse that with “skills”. There's a graphics team for that (which by the way, does much more than just good looking slides)

Believe me. Otherwise, you will be disapointed to know that you use PPT, Excel and the like during an MBA ;)

P.S. You gain more skills in MBB (and specialized knowledge). You gain a much broader range of knowledge in an MBA.

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Udayan
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Congrats on the offer!

 

As Ian said, it is always good to really think about why you want to work at a certain role before accepting it. The only way to know if a role is right for you is to speak to many people, to read about it and to try and put yourself into the role as much as possible. 

 

In terms of MBB vs MBA - this is harder. After MBB you will have almost the exact same opportunities as an MBA with higher pay and more responsibilities. You will also have that without sacrificing work and pay. However, an MBA (from a top 7 school) also has advantages such as access to a great network and there is some prestige etc built in to it which can help as you progress in your career (although this is not a guarantee given how rapidly things are changing). At the end of the day this is a personal choice and there is limited professional upside to picking one over another.

Best,

Udayan

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Francesco
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Hi AB,

Congratulations on the offer (yes, they are going to extend one)!

It depends on your long-term goals: why would you like to do an MBA / develop business acumen? Without knowing it, it is difficult to comment. That's because:

  • Having BCG on your CV is going to provide several advantages. 
  • However, the utility compared to alternatives (eg an MBA) depends on what you want to do long-term. 

If you want to add that, we would be happy to comment.

Sharing my personal experience: as an entrepreneur, the BCG brand was quite useful for fundraising for my first company (provided validation to investors). In terms of skills, working in venture capital – which I did after BCG – was actually more useful. On the other hand, I don’t think I could have landed that job without the BCG brand in the first place.

Hope this helps,

Francesco

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AB on Dec 01, 2021

Hi, thanks to everyone for all your inputs it's greatly appreciated. My personal situation is that I am currently a PM in engineering at Pfizer. My long term goals is to remain in the pharmaceutical/related sphere. I realised the office I applied for works mostly in the banking,finance, insurance areas rather than a pharmaceutical and related focus and the role I applied for is a generalist. That's why I am thinking whilst BCG would be great on a resume, if a MBA in my instance would potentially add equal value as I am trying to build up my business strategy skills.

Francesco on Dec 01, 2021

Hi AB, I see. I would check the profile of the people in the career you would like to follow and try to see which is the common background they share – this should help to clarify. You may also ask BCG if there is any option to focus more on pharma – possibly moving to a different office if possible/needed. Hope this helps.

Hagen
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Hi AB,

First of all, congratulations on the offer!

This is indeed an interesting question which is probably relevant for quite a lot of users, so I am happy to provide my perspective on it:

  • First of all, it is great to see such critical thinking and reflection! It seems to be rather rare since jobs in the consulting industry are a little hyped over the past years/ decades.
  • Given your description, I would advice you to think through what the skills are 1) you want to deepen and 2) that might be meaninful for your mid- and long-term career aspirations. Even if it is not PowerPoint and Excel you learn in consulting, it is worthwhile to question whether you might not get a very similar training in critical thinking/ structuring/ communicating in a corporate development/ corporate strategy role in your industry.
  • On a side note, pursuring an MBA is, to my own experience and the ones of my personal network, not a substitute for learning on the job in consulting.

In case you want a more detailed discussion on your most meaningful optinos for your career entry, please feel free to contact me directly.

I hope this helps,

Hagen

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Clara
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Hello!

Congrats! And also well done about your critical spirit, it´s precisely the right thing to do before any job. 

I would honestly use this question as a great opportunity to network in the office. They will offer you a million opportunities to talk to people who are inside, and you should take it, particularly in people inside the office that do Pharma. 

Hope it helps!

Cheers, 

Clara

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Adi
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Hi,

Yes you should receive the offer contract shortly (few days to a couple of weeks) from HR. Congrats for this!

Sounds like you plunged into applying for Consulting without paying the necessary attention to whether this will be the right career option. A lot of people do this.

And yes, PPT will be a huge part of the job but there are many other aspects to being in MBB/Consulting- problem solving, structured thinking, storytelling, communications & relationship building. Check out this article for some guidance on looking at career options and making the right decision: preplounge.com/en/how-do-i-know-which-career-is-right-for-me

All the best!

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Anonymous replied on Dec 08, 2021

Hi,

I completely understand where you are coming from, because I have a similar background: I have a master's in healthcare mgmt and worked at a hospital for around 3 years before joining BCG. 

I would suggest considering accepting the offer because:

1. As you are saying, an MBA or a consulting experience would massively upgrade your a) knowledge of the HC sector (as you will work on M&A, marketing, operations projects, etc. for many diverse pharmacos, so you will learn more about the industry dynamics than by staying embedded within one Pharma company as an employee) and b) analytical skills, learning to quickly frame solutions to ambiguous problems,

2. I think consulting wins over MBA, because the experience is active (as opposed to passive learning), practical, specific to your industry, and more advantageous economically (YOU are getting paid as opposed to paying thousands for a piece of paper). 

That being said, I agree with what Ian has said in terms of the job being more demanding than an industry job, and you have to be ready to sacrifice a few things. If I could go back and give myself an advice when I got the offer, I would tell myself to truly pause and think whether I am ready to give up: a few hours of sleep, going to the gym, seeing my friends during the week, etc….

If you do decide to go ahead with accepting the offer, we could chat about how you could better prepare for the first months at BCG. Coming from the industry, I was woefully unprepared for my first project (which happened to also be a DD :)), and doubling down on my excel, mental math, and communication skills helped me level up. So do not hesitate do reach out for more practical tips. 

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