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Negative outcome from the process

A.T. Kearney Middle East
Neue Antwort am 17. Juni 2020
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Anonym A fragte am 15. Juni 2020

Hi All,

I got a negative response after my final interviews with Kearney in M.E. It was a good process with 2 initial interviews with Principals and final 2 with partners (manager level process).

Context: My final interviews with the partners were interesting, the first one didn't go through any case. The entire hour was spent on my experience and C.V. Clearly I passed that one and then the final interview was with Head of sector who asked me a broad case style question. I personally felt comfortable answering and actually later found out that he worked on a white paper that came out a couple of days after the interview on which the questions was based. My answer was similar to the white paper and gives me confidence in my overall structuring and response.

Question: I have a call with the partner who progressed me to the next stage to get feedback, is it possible to suggest a rethink about the refusal and is there any chance of changing their minds? Could this refusal be anyhow linked to COVID?

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Ian
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antwortete am 15. Juni 2020
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You cannot reverse this decision.

Additionally, do not blame external factors on your failure. Sorry to be blunt, but if they interviewed you, you had a chance and you lost it - Covid did not do this.

You need to get the feedback, ask when you can recruit again (1-2 years), then suck it up, work hard, and re-apply when ready (and apply to other firms)

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Anonym B am 16. Juni 2020

How would you know that "Covid did not do this"? I guess you are aware that MBBs cut their hiring to almost zero, i.e. an interview performance which landed you a job 1 year ago, is now a reject...

Anonym C am 21. Juni 2020

I agree with Anonymous B.

Mehdi
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antwortete am 15. Juni 2020
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Hi,

I sincerely believe that it would be difficult (if not impossible) to make them change their minds because of several reasons. I think you should try to learn about what did not work well in this process and try to improve for other interviews instead of negotiating with them to review their decision.

You might want to have a call with the HR Manager or one of your interviewer (other than the one you already talked to) to get a detailed feedback on why you did not make it. If it is related to the current situation (COVID19), you might want to ask if you can be considered for the upcoming recruitment cycle (maybe in early 2021), otherwise take their feedback as a learning and try to make some progress for future applications.

I wish you all the best for your upcoming interviews.

Mehdi

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Clara
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antwortete am 17. Juni 2020
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Hello,

Unfortunatly, no.

I would strongly advise you not to, you won´t win anything and for sure won´t look good.

Take it as a honest chance for good feedback, which is always a gift.

Hope it helps!

Cheers,

Clara

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Antonello
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antwortete am 16. Juni 2020
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Hi, it is difficult but the fact that a partner will spend additional time with you is a signal the interview hasn't gone bad. My recommendation is to show your enthusiasm and motivation about the firm and asking about when you are able to apply again.

Best,
Antonello

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Anonym antwortete am 16. Juni 2020

Hi,

I think it is very difficult to get them change their mind. I would recommend instead to have a very detailed discussion with the partner the reason why you did not pass as it will help your preparation for future application.

As for the covid-19 reason, better to take it offfline with the HR and discuss any possible scenario.

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Vlad
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Hi,

Unfortunately, it's not possible. I would ask for detailed feedback because you never know what exactly went wrong. In addition, ask when you can reapply

Best

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Anonym antwortete am 15. Juni 2020

Hi there,

Sorry to hear that you didn't make it - but hey, making to the final rounds is a sign that you can make it into the industry, it's just that the stars were not aligned for you on your final day.

I highly doubt you can reverse the decision - take the feedback, ask the partner when can you re-apply, and if he has any advice for you in the meantime.

Stay positive and apply to other firms... plenty of fish in the sea :)

Best of luck

Khaled

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Axel
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Hi,

I would recommend that you take the opportunity to show the partner that you are coachable and really try to soak in the feedback as to why you did not pass and ask him how you can improve the next time.

Asking them to reverse the decision is only going to create a very poor impression and as has been mentioned before is not reversible.

-A

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Anonym antwortete am 15. Juni 2020

Hi,

unfortunately I do not think they will be able to reverse the decision.

What is important now is to have clear feedback with an actionable to do which will eventually allow you to apply later if you still want to of course.

David

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Luca
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Hello,

Unfortunately there is no chance to change their decision once that it is shared with candidate.
You should ask HR for a more detailed feedback and show your motivation to get that position, you can convince them to reduce the ban and give you another chance shortly.
Covid could be one of the reasons, many companies are reviewing their hiring targets, but even if that is part of the reason they will probably don't tell you that. Anyway if they took their time to make the interview, there was for sure a chance to get the position even with this covid situation, but the "bar" could be very higher than usual.

Best,
Luca

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Réka
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antwortete am 16. Juni 2020
3+ years McKinsey consulting experience|Strategy @ Coursera |Oxford MBA

Hi,

Unfortunately it's quite unlikely that they would change their minds. There is typically a long discussion about each applicant, where all people who interviewed you share their view on your performance. Once they have gone through that process, it's unlikely that they revisit the decision - if they were unsure, they'd rather invite you for an extra interview round (at least I saw that happening in McK).

Instead, understand the partner's feedback in detail and ask for advice on how you could improve. If the decision was in any way related to Covid, they'll encourage you to reapply later.

I hope it helps!

Best,

Réka

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Robert
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Hi Anonymous,

Thanks for taking the time to describe your situation in a clear and structured way!

Maybe it's not what you like to hear, but I am afraid that the decision is really final and I never saw any decision reverted at McKinsey and didn't hear any similar situation from other firms.

In any case I recommend to push in the call as much as possible to understand any potential short-comings from ATK side - it's definitely an excellent learning opportunity to absorb and implement this feedback for further improvement in future!

What I see throughout the industry is that recruiting activities were definitely slowing down, and low resource demand with comparatively high supply makes the process even more selective than previously.

On top of that, also you should consider that consulting industry is a comparatively small industry when considering the top-players. To not ruin any positive image all firms will still do some kind of recruiting somewhere and keep the machine running - even if the real demand of new hires might be very small at the moment. This does not mean that absolutely nobody gets hired (some of my coachees received offers recently!), but consulting firms can be more picky nowadays - and this might have also contributed to the decision you are facing.

Hope this helps - if so, please be so kind and give it a thumbs-up with the green upvote button below!

Robert

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